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		<title>Defending Science, Not Global Warming Science Per Se</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[This quote from an upcoming paper by Mike Hulme has been making the blog rounds of late:
Claims such as ‘2,500 of the world’s leading scientists have reached a   consensus that human activities are having a significant influence on   the climate’ are disingenuous. That particular consensus judgement, as   are many [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2010/6/16/on-consensus.html">This quote from an upcoming paper by Mike Hulme</a> has been making the blog rounds of late:</p>
<blockquote><p>Claims such as ‘2,500 of the world’s leading scientists have reached a   consensus that human activities are having a significant influence on   the climate’ are disingenuous. That particular consensus judgement, as   are many others in the IPCC reports, is reached by only a few dozen   experts in the specific field of detection and attribution studies;   other IPCC authors are experts in other fields.﻿</p></blockquote>
<p>I have not really written on this statement because its such old news.  This has been known for years, just not broadly reported.  So its good that this is getting more attention, but this is one reason I have not been blogging much on this site lately &#8212; while I am happy that things skeptics have known for years are finally reaching more popular media, I am not that interested in reporting on every such &#8220;revelation.&#8221;  &#8220;World is round, story at 11&#8243; does not really get me that excited.</p>
<p>However, I did want to answer one question I get a lot from audiences when I speak about the whole consensus thing.  Because many climate scientists and scientists in other fields and other academics do pile on and sign letters and petitions in support of the catastrophic global warming hypothesis.  People ask me how I can be right when there are so many showing support for the opposite position.</p>
<p>What I tell them is that these folks are not really showing support for the catastrophic global warming position in the sense that they have studied and reviewed the science in depth and found it compelling.  What they are really doing when they make these statements or sign letters is showing support for science itself.  The irony is they are doing just the opposite, but let me explain.</p>
<p>I was not a big fan of George W. Bush.  But universities absolutely, almost to a person, hated him with a crazy-deep passion.  They became convinced (right or wrong) that he was the leader of a Christian fundamental effort to subvert all science in favor of religious orthodoxy.  The leaders of the catastrophic global warming movement have been very successful in feeding off this passion, and portraying opposition to catastrophic anthropogenic global warming theory as part and parcel of this religious fundamentalist attack on all science.  They have successfully linked, in the minds of academics and many of the public, that disagreeing with James Hansen or critiquing the Hockey stick is the equivalent of being anti-science.</p>
<p>So when some biology professor at Berkely signs a statement in support of catastrophic global warming theory, it does not mean that she has looked at the strong positive feedback assumptions in climate models and found them reasonable.  It means she believes herself to be supporting science against the medieval barbarians at the gate.</p>
<p>The irony is that in fact they are doing the opposite.  In trying to oppose religious orthodoxy they have in fact supported scientists who treat their pet theory like a religious orthodoxy, and all opposition to it as heresy.   And in trying to support science, they have supported folks who have broken many of the most fundamental rules of modern science, including the avoidance of replication, the hiding of results and data, and corruption of the peer review process.</p>
<p>This may be why I underestimated the impact of the CRU email release.  In retrospect, I can imagine all those scientists that used to sign these petitions looking at what the CRU emails and thinking, &#8220;this is what I have defended as true science?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>New Alarmist Research</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Via the USA Today:
Worried your mate might be headed for greener pastures? A biology  study suggests you could cry &#8220;wolf&#8221;, or rather &#8220;lion&#8221;, to keep them  home on the range, at least as long as you are an antelope.
A  study in the forthcoming July edition of The American  Naturalist  journal [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://content.usatoday.com/communities/sciencefair/post/2010/05/sexual-deception-detected-where-the-antelopes-play/1">Via the USA Today:</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Worried your mate might be headed for greener pastures? A <a href="http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/full/10.1086/653078">biology  study suggests</a> you could cry &#8220;wolf&#8221;, or rather &#8220;lion&#8221;, to keep them  home on the range, at least as long as you are an antelope.</p>
<p>A  study in the forthcoming July edition of <em><a href="http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/toc/an/2010/175/6">The American  Naturalist</a></em> <a href="http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/toc/an/2010/175/6"> journal</a> by Jakob Bro-Jørgensen of the United Kingdom&#8217;s Liverpool University and  Wiline Pangle of Michigan State University, finds false lion warnings  are used to deter straying mates among topi antelope in Kenya&#8217;s Masai  Mara National Reserve. The study calls this a first documented case of  such sexual deception by false alarms.</p>
<p>&#8220;Here, we report that false  alarm snorts are used by male topi antelopes (<em>Damaliscus lunatus</em>)  to tactically deceive receptive females who intend to leave a male&#8217;s  territory into believing that they are headed toward a predator,&#8221; says  the study. &#8220;Consequentially, the departure of the female is delayed,  providing the male with additional mating opportunities.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Humans just take their dates to an Al Gore rally.</p>
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		<title>Weird</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[What an odd world we live in when environmental activists feel the need to write about how horrible grass and open parks can be for the environment.
You may recently have come to accept that lawns are bad for the planet.
Isn&#8217;t it amazing someone can assume his readers accept this statement so much that he can [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an odd world we live in when <a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/green/detail?blogid=49&amp;entry_id=57530">environmental activists</a> feel the need to write about how horrible grass and open parks can be for the environment.</p>
<blockquote><p>You may recently have come to accept that lawns are bad for the planet.</p></blockquote>
<p>Isn&#8217;t it amazing someone can assume his readers accept this statement so much that he can use it as a starting point?  He goes on to discuss when public spaces are and are not bad for the environment.</p>
<p>It is incredible to me that somehow we have reached a world where absurdly dense urban living a la Manhattan is considered the most environmentally friendly way for humans to live.  All just another way in which an obsession with CO2 has corrupted the environmental movement.  I have predicted it before but will say it again &#8212; some day, the environmentalists will look back on their global warming hysteria as a couple of lost decades in their own movement, when focus on real environmental issues were kicked to the curb in favor of going all in on trace concentrations of carbon dioxide.</p>
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		<title>Global Warming &#8220;Accelerating&#8221;</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have written a number of times about the &#8220;global warming accelerating&#8221; meme.  The evidence is nearly irrefutable that over the last 10 years, for whatever reason, the pace of global warming has decelerated (click below to enlarge)

This is simply a fact, though of course it does not necessarily &#8220;prove&#8221; that the theory of catastrophic [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have written a number of times about the &#8220;<a href="http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2008/10/global-warming-accelerating.html">global warming accelerating</a>&#8221; meme.  The evidence is nearly irrefutable that over the last 10 years, for whatever reason, the pace of global warming has decelerated (click below to enlarge)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.climate-movie.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/hansenjan20091.gif"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-896" title="hansenjan20091" src="http://www.climate-movie.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/hansenjan20091-500x341.gif" alt="hansenjan20091" width="500" height="341" /></a></p>
<p>This is simply a fact, though of course it does not necessarily &#8220;prove&#8221; that the theory of catastrophic anthropogenic global warming is incorrect.  Current results continue to be fairly consistent with my personal theory, that man-made CO2 may add 0.5-1C to global temperatures over the next century (below alarmist estimates), but that this warming may be swamped at times by natural climactic fluctuations that alarmists tend to under-estimate.</p>
<p>Anyway, in this context, I keep seeing stuff like this headline in the <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/14/AR2009021401757.html">WaPo</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Scientists:  Pace of Climate change Exceeds Estimates</p></blockquote>
<p>This headline seems to clearly imply that the measured pace of actual climate change is exceeding previous predictions and forecasts.   This seems odd since we know that temperatures have flattened recently.  Well, here is the actual text:</p>
<blockquote><p>The pace of global warming is likely to be much faster than recent predictions, because industrial greenhouse gas emissions have increased more quickly than expected and higher temperatures are triggering self-reinforcing feedback mechanisms in global ecosystems, scientists said Saturday.</p>
<p>&#8220;We are basically looking now at a future climate that&#8217;s beyond anything we&#8217;ve considered seriously in climate model simulations,&#8221; Christopher Field, founding director of the Carnegie Institution&#8217;s Department of Global Ecology at Stanford University, said at the annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science.</p></blockquote>
<p>So in fact, based on the first two paragraphs, in true major media tradition, the headline is a total lie.  In fact, the correct headline is:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Scientists Have Raised Their Forecasts for Future Warming&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Right?  I mean, this is all the story is saying, is that based on increased CO2 production, climate scientists think their forecasts of warming should be raised.  This is not surprising, because their models assume a direct positive relationship between CO2 and temperature.</p>
<p>The other half of the statement, that &#8220;higher temperatures are triggering self-reinforcing feedback mechanisms in global ecosystems&#8221; is a gross exaggeration of the state of scientific knowledge.  In fact, there is very little good understanding of climate feedback as a whole.  While we may understand individual pieces &#8211; ie this particular piece is a positive feedback &#8211; we have no clue as to how the whole thing adds up.  (<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctRvtxnNqU8&amp;eurl=http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2008/10/global-warming-accelerating.html">see my video here for more discussion of feedback</a>)</p>
<p>In fact, I have always argued that the climate models&#8217; assumptions of strong positive feedback (they assume really, really high levels) is totally unrealistic for a long-term stable system.  In fact, if we are really seeing runaway feedbacks triggered after the less than one degree of warming we have had over the last century, it boggles the mind how the Earth has staggered through the last 5 billion years without a climate runaway.</p>
<p>All this article is saying is &#8220;we are raising our feedback assumptions higher than even the ridiculously high assumptions we were already using.&#8221;  There is absolutely no new confirmatory evidence here.</p>
<p><strong>But this creates a problem for alarmists</strong></p>
<p>For you see, their forecasts have consistently demonstrated themselves to be too high.  You can see above how Hansen&#8217;s forecast to Congress 20 years ago has played out (and the Hansen A case was actually based on a CO2 growth forecast that has turned out to be too low).  Lucia, who tends to be scrupulously fair about such things, shows the more recent IPCC models <a href="http://rankexploits.com/musings/2009/surface-temperature-anomalies-almost-outside-2-sigma-confidence-intervals/">just dancing on the edge of being more than 2 standard deviations higher than actual measured results</a>.</p>
<p>But here is the problem:  The creators of these models are now saying that actual CO2 production, which is the key input to their model, is far exceeding their predictions.  So, presumably, if they re-ran their predictions using actual CO2 data, they would get even higher temperature forecasts. Further, they are saying that the feedback multiplier in their models should be higher as well.  But the forecasts of their models are already high vs. observations &#8212; this will even cause them to diverge further from actual measurements.</p>
<p>So here is the real disconnect of the model:  If you tell me that modelers underestimated the key input (CO2) in their models,  and have so far overestimated the key output (Temperature), I would have said the conclusion to this article is that climate sensitivity must be lower than what was embedded in the models.  But they are saying exactly the opposite.  How is this possible?</p>
<p><strong>Postscript:</strong> I hope readers understand this, but it is worth saying because clearly reporters do not understand this:  There is no way that climate change from CO2 can be accelerating if global warming is not accelerating.  There is no mechanism I have ever heard by which CO2 can change the climate without the intermediate step of raising temperatures.  Co2&#8211;&gt;temperature increase&#8211;&gt;changes in the climate.</p>
<p><strong>Update: </strong> Chart originally said 1998 forecast.  Has been corrected to 1988.</p>
<p><strong>Update#2: </strong>I am really tired of having to re-explain the choice of using Hansen&#8217;s &#8220;A&#8221; forecast, but I will do it again.  Hansen had forecasts A, B, C, with A being based on more CO2 than B, and B with more CO2 than C.  At the time, Hansen said he thought the A case was extreme.  This is then used by his apologists to say that I am somehow corrupting Hansen&#8217;s intent or taking him out of context by using the A case, because Hansen himself at the time said the A case was probably high.</p>
<p>But the only difference between A, B, and C were not the model assumptions of climate sensitivity or any other variable &#8212; they only differed in the amount of Co2 growth and the number of volcano eruptions (which have a cooling effect via aerosols).  We can go back and decide for ourselves which case turned out to be the most or least conservative.   As it turns out, all three cases UNDERESTIMATED the amount of CO2 man produced in the last 20 years.  So, we should not really use any of these lines as representative, but Scenario A is by far the closest.  The other two are way, way below our actual CO2 history.</p>
<p>The people arguing to use, say, the C scenario for comparison are being disingenuous.  The C scenario, while closer to reality in its temperature forecast, was based on an assumption of a freeze in Co2 production levels, something that obviously did not occur.</p>
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		<title>The Magic Correlation</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[This discussion, including the comments, over at Climate Audit, really is amazing.  Just when you think all the procedural errors that could be mined from the Mann hockey stick have been pulled to the surface, another gem emerges.
Here is how I understand it (please correct me if I am wrong in the comments):  Michael Mann [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This discussion, including the comments, over at <a href="http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=4855">Climate Audit</a>, really is amazing.  Just when you think all the procedural errors that could be mined from the Mann hockey stick have been pulled to the surface, another gem emerges.</p>
<p>Here is how I understand it (please correct me if I am wrong in the comments):  Michael Mann uses a variety of proxies to reconstruct history  (he actually pre-screens them to only use the ones that will give him the answer he wants, but that is another problem that has been detailed in <a href="http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2008/11/deconstructing-the-hockey-stick.html">other posts</a>).  To be able to tell temperature with these proxies (since their original measurements are things like mm of tree ring width, not degrees) they must be scaled based on periods in which the thermometer-measured surface temperature record overlaps the proxy record.</p>
<p>Apparently, when making these calibrations, he used the surface temperature record from 1850-1995, but also did other runs with sub-periods of this, such as 1850-1949 and 1896-1995.  OK so far.  Well, McIntyre believes he has found that when running these correlations, the sign of the correlation factor for a single proxy actually changes.</p>
<p>What does this mean?  Well, lets assume proxy 1 is tree ring width from a particular tree, and a calibration based on 1850-1995 has such-and-such ring width data correlated at x per degree.   This means that an increase in ring width of X implies a temperature increase of one.  But, when calibrating on one of the other periods, the exact same proxy has a calibration of -Y.  This means that an increase in the ring width of Y yields a temperature DECREASE of one.</p>
<p>I had a professor of physics back in undergrad who used to just drive me crazy with his insistence on good error estimations in the lab  (which he was right to emphasize, just proving I was not meant for the lab).  He used to say that if your error range crossed zero, in other words, if your range of possible answers included both positive and negative numbers, then you really did not understand a process.  You don&#8217;t understand a relationship, he would say, if you don&#8217;t even know the sign.  Well, Mann has gotten over this little problem, I guess, because he is perfectly able to have the same physical process have exactly opposite relationships with temperature depending on what 50 year period he is working with.</p>
<p>OK, so Steve caught him with one bad proxy.  Heck, he has over a thousand others.  But now McIntyre is reporting in the comments he has found 308 such cases, where Mann has correlations that change signs like this.  Wow.</p>
<p><strong>Postscript: </strong> By the way, one of the most fundamental rules of regression analysis is that when you throw a variable into the regression, you should have some theoretical reason for doing so.  This is because every single variable you add, no matter how spurious, is going to improve the fit of a regression (trust me on this, it&#8217;s in the math).</p>
<p>In the case of proxy regressions, it is simply unacceptable to rely on the regression for the sign.  You rely on physics for the sign, not the regression.   If you don&#8217;t even know the sign of the relationship between your proxy and temperature, then you don&#8217;t understand the proxy well enough physically to justify even calling it a proxy.</p>
<p>This is a big, big deal in financial modelling.  I can&#8217;t tell you how often it is emphasized in financial modelling to make sure you have a working theory as to how and why a variable should affect a regression, and then when you get the result, you need to test it against your original theory.  And if they are too far apart, you need to doubt the computer result.  Because in financial modelling, if you get too much confidence in regressions against spurius data, you can go bankrupt  (in climate, it instead seems to lead to fame, large grants, and hanging out with vice-presidents).</p>
<p><strong>Update:</strong> Oops, I missed the<a href="http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=4846"> first post</a> on this at Climate Audit, which discusses the issues in my postscript in more depth.  This is a good example, and it is not surprising they revert to a financial example as I did, as financial modelers have the greatest immediate incentives not to fool themselves.</p>
<blockquote><p>We (the authors of this paper) have identified a weather station whose temperature readings predict daily changes in the value of a specific set of stocks with a correlation of r=-0.87. For $50.00, we will provide the list of stocks to any interested reader. That way, you can buy the stocks every morning when the weather station posts a drop in temperature, and sell when the temperature goes up. Obviously, your potential profits here are enormous. But you may wonder: how did we find this correlation? The figure of -.87 was arrived at by separately computing the correlation between the readings of the weather station in Adak Island, Alaska, with each of the 3315 financial instruments available for the New York Stock Exchange (through the Mathematica function FinancialData) over the 10 days that the market was open between November 18th and December 3rd, 2008. We then averaged the correlation values of the stocks whose correlation exceeded a high threshold of our choosing, thus yielding the figure of -.87. Should you pay us for this investment strategy? Probably not: Of the 3,315 stocks assessed, some were sure to be correlated with the Adak Island temperature measurements simply by chance – and if we select just those (as our selection process would do), there was no doubt we would find a high average correlation. Thus, the final measure (the average correlation of a subset of stocks) was not independent of the selection criteria (how stocks were chosen): this, in essence, is the non-independence error. The fact that random noise in previous stock fluctuations aligned with the temperature readings is no reason to suspect that future fluctuations can be predicted by the same measure, and one would be wise to keep one’s money far away from us, or any other such investment advisor</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Update #2: </strong> I guess I have to issue a correction.  I have argued that climate scientists tend to be unique in trying to avoid criticism by labeling critics as &#8220;un-scientific&#8221;.  In retrospect, it does not appear climate scientists are unique:</p>
<blockquote><p>The iconoclastic tone have attracted coverage on many blogs, including that of Newsweek. Those attacked say they have not had the chance to argue their case in the normal academic channels. &#8220;I first heard about this when I got a call from a journalist,&#8221; comments neuroscientist Tania Singer of the University of Zurich, Switzerland, whose papers on empathy are listed as examples of bad analytical practice. &#8220;I was shocked — this is not the way that scientific discourse should take place.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
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		<description><![CDATA[From Joe Romm, via Tom Nelson
The finalist list is out for the 2008 Weblog awards “Best Science Blog,” and two of the ten finalists are anti-scientific websites primarily devoted to spreading disinformation (and noninformation) on global warming– just like 2007.
The 2007 “competition” ended up being yet another classic exercise in the right wing perverting an [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From<a href="http://tomnelson.blogspot.com/2009/01/more-frustration-from-joe-romm.html"> Joe Romm, via Tom Nelson</a></p>
<blockquote><p>The finalist list is out for the 2008 Weblog awards “Best Science Blog,” and <strong>two of the ten finalists are anti-scientific websites primarily devoted to spreading disinformation (and noninformation) on global warming–</strong> just like 2007.</p>
<p>The 2007 “competition” ended up being yet another classic exercise in the right wing perverting an otherwise reasonable web idea — online voting for the best science blog. As Desmogblog explained in a post titled, The “Vast Right Wing Conspiracy” beating “Vast Left Wing” Voting for Best Science Weblog, <strong>the right wing voted en masse for Climate Audit and the rational people all voted for Discover magazine’s excellent Bad Astronomy Blog.</strong> In the end, the process was so controverisal that the Awards folk simply called it a tie — saying each blog ended up with exactly 20,000 votes.<br />
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The Weblog Awards should not be legitimizing anti-scientific denialism.</p></blockquote>
<p>As a student of history, I try really hard to never use the word &#8220;unprecedented.&#8221;  For example, those who think the partisan bickering we have today is somehow at a peak should go back to any American paper in 1855 and take a gander at the vitriol that flew back and forth.</p>
<p>But I must say I do find it difficult to find a good historical analog for this whole &#8220;anti-scientific&#8221; knock on climate skeptics.  I can understand accusing others of being <em>wrong </em>on a topic in science.   For example, it took decades for plate tectonics theory to catch on outside of small fringes of the geologic community, but I don&#8217;t remember folks accusing others of being anti-scientific.</p>
<p>This is particularly true in the case of the two blogs Mr. Romm mentions.   Here are a couple of quick thoughts:</p>
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<li>Steve McIntyre, at Climate Audit, spends most of his time trying (in great, statistical depth) trying to replicate work by scientists such as Michael Mann and James Hansen, and critiques their work when he thinks he finds flaws.  Mann and Hansen spend much of their time trying to stonewall Mr. McIntyre and prevent him from having access to their data (most of which was collected and analyzed at taxpayer expense, either directly or through government grants).  Which of these parties seems closer to the spirit of science.</li>
<li>Anthony Watt argued for years with the government operators of the surface temperature measurement network that their system had location biases that were not being taken into account, and that were much large than being acknowledged.  When the operators of these systems were uninterested in pursuing the matter, Watt started a volunteer effort to survey and photograph these stations to the location biases, where they may exist, would be visible and available for anyone who wished to see.</li>
<li>Only one side in this debate ever argues that the other should be banned from even speaking or being heard.  I think you know which one that is.  So which side is the one that is &#8220;anti-science&#8221; &#8212; the one that is happy to mix it up in open debate or the one that is trying to get its opposition silenced?</li>
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<p>Again, Watt and McIntyre could be <em>wrong</em>, but their sites are often scientific.  I could easily name 10 climate skeptic sites that, while I wouldn&#8217;t call them anti-science, are certainly a-scientific, focusing more on polemic than data.  But I could do the exact same on the alarmist side.  Certainly Watt and McIntyre&#8217;s sites are not in this category.</p>
<p>Here is the best analogy I can come up with (one which, not being religious myself, hopefully I can portray with a bit of detachment).   During the reformation, the Catholic Church accused critics of the Church of being anti-Christian.  But the religious skeptics were not anti-Christian per se, they merely contested the Church&#8217;s (and the Pope&#8217;s) ability to speak with absolute authority on religious matters.  In this case, the priests of the Church were upset that their monopoly to speak for Church doctrine was being challenged. They challenged their opposition as being anti-religious, but what they were was actually against the established Church, doctrine, and priesthood.</p>
<p>And by the way, is any actual adult human being with more than a year experience blogging really surprised that voting on the Internet</p>
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		<title>More on the Sun</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t say that I am a total sun hawk, meaning that I believe the sun and natural trends are 100% to blame for global warming.  I don&#8217;t think it unreasonable to posit that once all the natural effects are unwound, man-made CO2 may be contributing a  0.5-1.0C a century trend (note this is far below alarmist forecasts).</p>
<p>But the sun almost had to be an important fact in late 20th century warming.  Previously, I have shown this chart of sunspot activity over the last century, demonstrating a much higher level of solar activity in the second half than the first (the 10.8 year moving average was selected as the average length of a 20th century sunspot cycle).<br />
<a href="http://www.climate-movie.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/sunspot2.gif"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-796" title="sunspot2" src="http://www.climate-movie.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/sunspot2-500x310.gif" alt="sunspot2" width="500" height="310" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://errortheory.blogspot.com/2008/12/natural-warming-is-driven-by-level-of.html">Alec Rawls</a> has an interesting point to make about how folks are considering the sun&#8217;s effect on climate:</p>
<blockquote><p>Over and over again the alarmists claim that late 20th century warming <em>can’t</em> be caused by the solar-magnetic effects because there was no upward trend in solar activity between 1975 and 2000, when temperatures were rising. As Lockwood and Fröhlich put it <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7092655.stm">last year</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Since about 1985,… the cosmic ray count [inversely related to solar activity] had been increasing, which should have led to a temperature fall if the theory is correct &#8211; instead, the Earth has been warming. … This should settle the debate.</p></blockquote>
<p>Morons. It is the <em>levels</em> of solar activity and galactic cosmic radiation that matter, not whether they are going up or down. Solar activity jumped up to “grand maximum” levels in the 1940’s and stayed there (averaged across the 11 year solar cycles) until 2000. Solar activity doesn’t have to <em>keep</em> going up for warming to occur. Turn the gas burner under a pot of stew to high and the stew will heat. You don’t have to keep turning the flame up further and further to keep getting heating!</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Update: </strong> A commenter argues that I am simplistic and immature in this post.  I find this odd, I guess, for the following reason.  One group tends to argue that the sun is largely irrelevant to the past century&#8217;s temperature increases.  Another argues that the sun is the main or only driver.  I argue that the evidence seems to point to it being a mix, with the sun explaining some but not all of the 20th century increase, and I am the one who is simplistic?</p>
<p>The commenter links to this graph, which I will include.  It is a comparison of the Hadley CRUT3 global temperature index (green) and sunspot numbers (red):</p>
<p><a href="http://www.climate-movie.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/mean-132.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-801" title="mean-132" src="http://www.climate-movie.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/mean-132-500x375.png" alt="mean-132" width="500" height="375" /></a></p>
<p>Since I am so ridiculously immature, I guess I don&#8217;t trust myself to interpret this chart, but I would have happily used this chart myself had I had access to it originally.  Its wildly dangerous to try to visually interpret data and data correlations, but I don&#8217;t think it is unreasonable to say that there might be a relationship between these two data sets.  Certainly not 100%, but then again the same could easily be said of the relationship of temperature to Co2.  The same type of inconsistencies the commenter points out in this correlation could easily be made for Co2 (e.g., why, if CO2 was increasing, and in fact accelerating, were temps in 1980 lower than 1940?</p>
<p>The answer, of course, is that climate is complicated.  But I see nothing in this chart that is inconsistent with the hypothesis that the sun might have been responsible for half of the 20th century warming.  And if Co2 is left with just 0.3-0.4C warming over the last century, it is a very tough road to get from past warming to sensitivities as high as 3C or greater.  I have all along contended that Co2 will likely drive 0.5-1.0C warming over the next century, and see nothing in this chart that makes me want to change that prediction.</p>
<p><strong>Update #2: </strong> I guess I must be bored tonight, because commenter Jennifer has inspired me to go beyond my usual policy of not mixing it up much in the comments section.  A lengthy response to her criticism is <a href="http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2008/12/who-is-being-facile.html">here</a>.</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I think I have finally, successfully migrated both my blogs from the Typepad ASP service to self-hosted Wordpress.  Many of you on feeds may have gotten a one-time slug of about 10 old posts in your feed  (sorry).  This was an artifact of the change of feed sources toFeedburner and should not happen again.  Overall, I am very pleased with the results.  The sites look better , they are easier to modify, they run faster, and the back-end interface is MUCH better.  Most of you don&#8217;t care, but I will post on the process I followed to migrate as a repayment to others whose past such posts helped me through the process.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[From Mark Scousen in "Making Modern Economics" Ironically, by the time of the thirteenth edition [of Paul Samuelsons popular economics textbook], right before the Berlin Wall was torn down, Samuleson and Nordhaus confidently declared, "The Soviet economy is proof that,...
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<p>Ironically, by the time of the thirteenth edition [of Paul Samuelsons popular economics textbook], right before the Berlin Wall was torn down, Samuleson and Nordhaus confidently declared, &quot;The Soviet economy is proof that, <strong>contrary to what many skeptics believed</strong> [a reference to Mises and Hayek], a socialist command economy can function and even thrive.&quot;&#0160; <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=QV2OJqbt45oC&amp;pg=PA416&amp;lpg=PA416&amp;dq=paul+samuelson+soviet+union+central+planning&amp;source=bl&amp;ots=D-W7jVbmMD&amp;sig=Gpl2oXOKF98UsWuwtUb3Nk9lF38&amp;hl=en&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;resnum=8&amp;ct=result">From this online excerpt</a>.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hat Tip to a reader. I am envisioning a "Team America: World Police" sequel.
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<p><a href="http://www.climate-skeptic.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/09/25/tower.jpg"><img title="Tower" height="621" alt="Tower" src="http://www.climate-skeptic.com/images/2008/09/25/tower.jpg" width="600" border="0" /></a> </p>
<p>Hat Tip to a reader.&nbsp; I am envisioning a &quot;Team America:&nbsp; World Police&quot; sequel.</p>
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