Comments on: FOIA for Me But Not For Thee

By: hunter

hunter — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:21:36 +0000

Mtngoat,
Great point.

By: Mtngoat

Mtngoat — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:17:00 +0000

The folks asking for this data should immediately file suit and name every one of these folks as defendants in interference with a legal request and conspiracy to deny access.

By: Patvann

Patvann — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:38:18 +0000

Internal memo from Jones after getting wind of the FOI request (I found this within the released e-mails)…

Options appear to be:

1. Send them the data
2. Send them a subset removing station data from some of the countries who made us pay in the normals papers of Hulme et al. (1990s) and also any number that David can remember. This should also omit some other countries like (Australia, NZ, Canada, Antarctica). Also could extract some of the sources that Anders added in (31-38 source codes in J&M 2003). Also should remove many of the early stations that we coded up in the 1980s.
3. Send them the raw data as is, by reconstructing it from GHCN. How could this be done? Replace all stations where the WMO ID agrees with what is in GHCN. This would be the raw data, but it would annoy them.

By: tim heyes

tim heyes — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 03:04:11 +0000

As one of the limies I have to agree with the points made. We have muppets for lawmakers in Britain, on both sides of the political divide. We have limited recourse to challenge the political classes and our legal system is the joke of the entire world – cf UK libel laws.

We have no formal constitution or bill of rights, we are deferring all our social and political rights to an autocratic Europe… It’s no wonder the pilgrims set sail – just sorry i missed the boat.

By: Bob Hawkins

Bob Hawkins — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:16:54 +0000

Until they went out of business, the biggest user of the U.S. FOIA was the Soviet Union.

By: hunter

hunter — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:56:08 +0000

If you found out your 401-k was being managed like these guys are managing climate science, what would you do?
Would you trust what they told you?
Would you keep your money with them?

By: Papertiger

Papertiger — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:25:44 +0000

We so much for the Limies. Let’s go get the Yanks now. GISS and NCDC internal memos, emails, codes, budget shenanigans, have to be at least as entertaining as CRU.

Besides that, once someone hacks NOAA, there will be concrete evidence to ~~embarass~~ question selected Supreme Court Justice’s about why they hastily ruled that government can regulate the citizen’s right to breath.