Comments on: Cognitive Dissonance

By: Johnno

Johnno — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 11:57:56 +0000

Has the monopoly of propoganda finally started to be challenged? I would comment todays (Friday 4th December 2009) ABC RN Counterpoint broadcast with Aynsley Kellow, Professor and Head of the School of Government at the University of Tasmania.
The ABC for what I believe the very first time actually allowed a sceptic, in the true and scientifically honorable sense of the word, raise serious doubts about the way the science may have been manipulated to promote the golbal warming, now known as climate change, industry. Well done ABC.

By: howiem

howiem — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 19:55:22 +0000

The IPCC http://ipcc.ch) archives have been removed from the Way Back Machine (Internet Archives)http://web.archive.org. On 30 November 2009, I was able to access the IPCC archives, but on 1 December 2009, all I got for the 20 or so links I checked was “Archive not found”.

Looks like the coverup is going full steam ahead.

By: hunter (the sane one)

hunter (the sane one) — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 14:01:47 +0000

I see the clown college semester is over, and our very own idiot savant name stealing troll is back.
Hunter(the phony one) does it feel to be caught out on the wrong side of facts, history, ethics, etc. and to realize that you were taken out of the wading pool end of the genetic pool in the first place?
That those exposed in the e-mails spend a great deal of time figuring out how to hide the very things our host pointed out is clearly beyond our troll’s abilities.
But then, crossing the street without a guide is likely beyond our troll, as well.

By: Robert Reis

Robert Reis — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 10:34:24 +0000

Damn. I deserve a {sic] too.

By: Robert Reis

Robert Reis — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 10:33:14 +0000

MrCannuckistan:
“The realities of the Holocaust are irrefutatble[sic] and people rarely want to be thought of as immoral.”

It is against the law in much of Europe to investigate the historial facts of that era.

You can google my name and “Hitler and a Historian.”

I don’t feel immoral at all.

By: Evil Red Scandi

Evil Red Scandi — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 06:03:21 +0000

“Given their forecasts, this has to be a pretty muscular phenomenon…”

Great snark line I saw on another site (not sure who to credit): “If only there were some sort of natural factor that could explain global temperature variations… It would have to be massive, though. Approximately on the magnitude of our own Sun.”

(that’s not to say the sun is doing 100% of the work or anything; it was just a great snark).

By: jack

jack — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 03:53:36 +0000

Can anyone answer this – it seems that there was a hell of a lot of burning and pollution and poorly controlled industry during the years 1939-1945 – just about the whole world was aflame. Did this result in catastrophic warming in the 1940s? My understanding was that this was a particularly cold period. Maybe that, to quote Al Gore, is another inconvenient truth.

By: Johnno

Johnno — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 00:10:24 +0000

In the 1980s ozone depletion was the big bad wolf. It promoted a huge industry.
In the 1990s the Black Forest was going to be dead in a year – check the relevent tourism websites to see how true that was.
In 1999 the world was going to come to an end due to the Y2K computer failures – what a lot of hot air that proved to be.
Now it is CO2 – well, people, it is what we alll breate out and the trees breathe in.
MEMO TO ALARMISTS: Please explain (i) how the great ice age ended and (ii) why Greenland had horticulture circa 1000 – 1100 AD? NATURAL global warming CYCLE people. Nothing to do with power stations and cars surely. The climate is and always has been cyclical.
Nobody is suggesting that reducing emissions and pollution, and the use of natural resources is not a good thing for many other reasons.

By: malcolm

malcolm — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 23:12:15 +0000

Here is a reporter from Vancouver this is what he says:

http://communities.canada.com/vancouversun/blogs/feeltheheat/archive/2009/12/01/scientist-at-centre-of-email-storm-steps-aside.aspx

“But even if the CRU data was manipulated – and there is no proof of that yet – it has been duplicated by two other independent agencies, The National Climatic Data Center of the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration and NASA’s Goddard Institute of Space Studies.”

Hey just move the goal posts whenever you have too.

By: Jay

Jay — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 22:20:26 +0000

By the way Hunter, my wife spent 28 years teaching special education high school kids. Your use of the term “retarded” as a pejorative is churlish, immature and ignorant. Much like your understanding of the climate change debate.