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	<title>Comments on: Phoenix Climate Presentation, November 10 at 7PM</title>
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		<title>By: Terry Lovell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry Lovell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could you forward your PPT for this presentation?  I&#039;d like to repeat the presentation for my students who can&#039;t make it in person.
tjl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could you forward your PPT for this presentation?  I&#8217;d like to repeat the presentation for my students who can&#8217;t make it in person.<br />
tjl</p>
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		<title>By: Barnes M</title>
		<link>http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2009/10/phoenix-climate-presentation-november-10-at-7pm.html/comment-page-1#comment-5758</link>
		<dc:creator>Barnes M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 01:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What would be most interesting is if you could find someone from RealClimate to actually participate in a live debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What would be most interesting is if you could find someone from RealClimate to actually participate in a live debate.</p>
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		<title>By: David C</title>
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		<dc:creator>David C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 00:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, I am out of town that week and will not be able to attend. I hope you will be able to post a video of the presentation. Good Luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, I am out of town that week and will not be able to attend. I hope you will be able to post a video of the presentation. Good Luck.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Cantoni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Cantoni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 02:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have notified numerous friends of your Phoenix presentation, and several have expressed interest in attending.  I&#039;ve also signed up for updates on the presentation.  I trust that I and they don&#039;t have to do anything else before attending -- that we can simply show up.  Please let me know if that&#039;s incorrect.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have notified numerous friends of your Phoenix presentation, and several have expressed interest in attending.  I&#8217;ve also signed up for updates on the presentation.  I trust that I and they don&#8217;t have to do anything else before attending &#8212; that we can simply show up.  Please let me know if that&#8217;s incorrect.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: ADiff</title>
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		<dc:creator>ADiff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also established firms may be favored by effecting increased barriers to entry in markets.  Interesting how wealth concentration can be favored by increased government intervention into markets, isn&#039;t it?  Before one can &#039;appropriate&#039; one must first &#039;expropriate&#039;. A general increase in costs effectively shrinks the volume of available capital, further exacerbating challenges to new entrants. This anti-competitive &#039;side-effect&#039; (if that&#039;s what it actually should be called) has substantial allure for &#039;past winners&#039; who see their laurels challenged by the relentless innovation of a free market.  The potential malfeasance of substantial market power in the absence of government intervention is dwarfed by that possible with its assistance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also established firms may be favored by effecting increased barriers to entry in markets.  Interesting how wealth concentration can be favored by increased government intervention into markets, isn&#8217;t it?  Before one can &#8216;appropriate&#8217; one must first &#8216;expropriate&#8217;. A general increase in costs effectively shrinks the volume of available capital, further exacerbating challenges to new entrants. This anti-competitive &#8216;side-effect&#8217; (if that&#8217;s what it actually should be called) has substantial allure for &#8216;past winners&#8217; who see their laurels challenged by the relentless innovation of a free market.  The potential malfeasance of substantial market power in the absence of government intervention is dwarfed by that possible with its assistance.</p>
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		<title>By: An Inquirer</title>
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		<dc:creator>An Inquirer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug,
Not a death wish.  Several companies stand to make billions (and more) with cap-and-trade.  Sort of a variation of &quot;Peter will always favor a tax on Paul to pay Peter.&quot;  Company X will favor an imposition on other companies (and consumers) if it requires the others to buy X&#039;s product.
I have followed legislation for a few decades, and I have never seen anything like the current &quot;cap &amp; trade&quot; bill.  It reaches new heights for political pay-offs, not-so-subtle bribes, pork, unknown resolution of vague &amp; reserved passages, complexities, and opportunities for graft.  It is hard to believe that our MSM has so much the role intended for its freedom -- to be a watchdog, to bring to light the corruption that is in the bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug,<br />
Not a death wish.  Several companies stand to make billions (and more) with cap-and-trade.  Sort of a variation of &#8220;Peter will always favor a tax on Paul to pay Peter.&#8221;  Company X will favor an imposition on other companies (and consumers) if it requires the others to buy X&#8217;s product.<br />
I have followed legislation for a few decades, and I have never seen anything like the current &#8220;cap &amp; trade&#8221; bill.  It reaches new heights for political pay-offs, not-so-subtle bribes, pork, unknown resolution of vague &amp; reserved passages, complexities, and opportunities for graft.  It is hard to believe that our MSM has so much the role intended for its freedom &#8212; to be a watchdog, to bring to light the corruption that is in the bill.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 06:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And then there&#039;s this: http://tinyurl.com/ydu2wao  Talk about a corporate death wish!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And then there&#8217;s this: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/ydu2wao" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/ydu2wao</a>  Talk about a corporate death wish!</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 22:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ADiff wrote: &quot;The psuedo-science of ‘Climate Change’ bodes ill to do even more damage to the general credibility of Science than the pseudo-Science of the Social Darwinists, with which it seems so similar.&quot;

It would be pretty hard to do worse than social Darwinism, so it will be interesting (and unfortunate either way) to see how your prediction plays out . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ADiff wrote: &#8220;The psuedo-science of ‘Climate Change’ bodes ill to do even more damage to the general credibility of Science than the pseudo-Science of the Social Darwinists, with which it seems so similar.&#8221;</p>
<p>It would be pretty hard to do worse than social Darwinism, so it will be interesting (and unfortunate either way) to see how your prediction plays out . . .</p>
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		<title>By: ADiff</title>
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		<dc:creator>ADiff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 17:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m very much looking forward to this.  It should be very interesting. 

No less than in the case of the eugenicists of the late 19th &amp; early 20th Century, Science should appreciate the potential damage to itself from ideologues, fanatics &amp; profiteers attempts to suborn its credibility to their own beliefs, desires and interests. Mass Hysteria is probably inevitable from time-to-time.  The real point here is less the particular momentary &#039;Craze&#039;, but rather to limit the social and the institutional damage it inflicts.  Science should inform policy, but never dictate it.  Otherwise, as we increasingly see, it is policy that will dictate Science...to the detriment of both. 

The psuedo-science of &#039;Climate Change&#039; bodes ill to do even more damage to the general credibility of Science than the pseudo-Science of the Social Darwinists, with which it seems so similar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m very much looking forward to this.  It should be very interesting. </p>
<p>No less than in the case of the eugenicists of the late 19th &amp; early 20th Century, Science should appreciate the potential damage to itself from ideologues, fanatics &amp; profiteers attempts to suborn its credibility to their own beliefs, desires and interests. Mass Hysteria is probably inevitable from time-to-time.  The real point here is less the particular momentary &#8216;Craze&#8217;, but rather to limit the social and the institutional damage it inflicts.  Science should inform policy, but never dictate it.  Otherwise, as we increasingly see, it is policy that will dictate Science&#8230;to the detriment of both. </p>
<p>The psuedo-science of &#8216;Climate Change&#8217; bodes ill to do even more damage to the general credibility of Science than the pseudo-Science of the Social Darwinists, with which it seems so similar.</p>
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