Comments on: GCCI #4: I Am Calling Bullsh*t on this Chart

By: _Jim

_Jim — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 02:14:37 +0000

Electric ‘Grid’ Problem?

‘scuse me?

A count of simple ‘Outage’ incidents/reports or -

- actual ‘Grid’ (literally: “Intertie problems”, including synchronization, load/dispatch coordination, reactive power, voltage support etc) Problems?

It’s one or the other (or separate reports) … but NOT both.

By: Harry Eagar

Harry Eagar — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 11:48:02 +0000

‘we are dealing with a coupled non-linear chaotic system.’

Or not. Lorenz, who developed the mathematical theory of chaos to deal with weather, said he did not know whether climate was chaotic or not. (In the Danz Lectures.)

It isn’t. It’s antichaotic. That is, if mathematical chaos means that small changes to inputs can have unpredictably large outputs, then Earth climate demonstrates over several billion years that even large changes in inputs have predictably small changes in outputs.

Nice catch, Mr. Meyer.

By: KZnextzone

KZnextzone — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 23:57:28 +0000

In all fairness Duh One said that we would see: “This is the moment the oceans stop rising, etc. smarmy blarney…..”

Hope he can control this, I’d hate to hafta start wearing a Parka here in SoCal!!

By: Karl Larson

Karl Larson — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 23:45:34 +0000

Our local weather cartel has now announced that our ‘monsoon season’ will now be from June 15th- Sept.30th and to heck with what weather patterns might have to do with it. It seems kind of Orwellian to me. I live in S/W USA. It seems only months ago they were debating how it was not a monsoon at all and now they say it is like a baseball season and begins and ends by a calendar.

By: Highlander

Highlander — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:18:31 +0000

As always, one ~must~ remember: The effect can ~never~ overcome the cause.

By: Eric Anderson

Eric Anderson — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 05:19:19 +0000

Warren, I was initially discouraged to see the report, but given what initially appears to be the propagandistic nature and the paucity of the science, I am now predicting that within a couple of months the report will be dismantled piece by piece until even the alarmists distance themselves from significant portions of the document. You heard it here first.

The decision to approach these issues on a propaganda level through a PR firm will turn out to have been a significant strategic blunder by the administration.

By: Don Lloyd

Don Lloyd — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 00:40:32 +0000

Warren,

One random possibility for an increase in reported electrical generation/distribution outages is that electrical equipment has greatly evolved from massive wires and mechanical switches to integrated circuits and microprocessor-controlled systems. The newer systems are inherently more sensitive to upsets, and able to report them, and they will generally only be hardened to the degree that it is cost effective to do so, as survivable and quickly recoverable outages may be more cost effective than zero upset system designs.

Regards, Don

By: stan

stan — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:39:12 +0000

It sounds like this “report” is just a regurgitated form of Algore’s movie.

By: Ken

Ken — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:00:51 +0000

Right on brother!This report is completely biased.It makes the same old predictions that we’ve heard before. You know, oceans rising, glaciers melting, storms getting bigger, droughts getting drier, crops growing better…oh wait scratch that last one…But the same problem remains: these are all evidence of climate change but not evidence that C02 is the cause. Or that humans are the cause. Claiming that C02 is the cause does not make it so. It is up to the AGW Believers to show the skeptics that C02 controls the climate, do this and they’ll be on board. No more fake pictures of polar bears and flooded Manhattan thanks, these are not proof.

Oh by the way: In the UN IPCC’s 3rd report they state “In climate research and modeling, we should recognize that we are dealing with a coupled non-linear chaotic system, and therefore that the long-term prediction of future climate states is not possible.” In other words they say that it is not possible to make future long-term predictions of climate. So if it impossible, how does one produce a study full of long term predictions like this one?

By: Tom Fuller

Tom Fuller — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 19:26:23 +0000

Glad you’re back and on point. I’m doing a short series for Examiner.com on this report. Rather than just steal huge chunks of your posts (which I unintentionally did to Roger Pielke Jr.), would you like to engage on this as an interview? We could do it by email or even in the comments section here.