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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2008/08/global-warming-7.html/comment-page-1#comment-3035</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 20:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;From the page the article linked to: &quot;These script-generated graphs are auto-scaled by default.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
So any similarities between the two graphs gets thrown out the window until they are both scaled by the correct amount.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the page the article linked to: &#8220;These script-generated graphs are auto-scaled by default.&#8221;<br />
So any similarities between the two graphs gets thrown out the window until they are both scaled by the correct amount.</p>
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		<title>By: Luis Dias</title>
		<link>http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2008/08/global-warming-7.html/comment-page-1#comment-3034</link>
		<dc:creator>Luis Dias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well you got me there, Peter. Because english is not my first language, I have a lack of knowledge of many expressions that seem non-sensical but may have some sense to the knowers. So I always get caught at that kind of things.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;BTW, if the post tries not to do any point, then again, it may not be cherry picking (thought I think that the subliminal message is of that nature), but by rigorous definition and ignoring any subtleties, it is &lt;i&gt;point&lt;/i&gt;less.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well you got me there, Peter. Because english is not my first language, I have a lack of knowledge of many expressions that seem non-sensical but may have some sense to the knowers. So I always get caught at that kind of things.</p>
<p>BTW, if the post tries not to do any point, then again, it may not be cherry picking (thought I think that the subliminal message is of that nature), but by rigorous definition and ignoring any subtleties, it is <i>point</i>less.</p>
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		<title>By: Warren</title>
		<link>http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2008/08/global-warming-7.html/comment-page-1#comment-3033</link>
		<dc:creator>Warren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 10:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oops.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://publishing.royalsociety.org/media/proceedings_a/rspa20071880.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This&lt;/a&gt; is the correct link.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops.  <a href="http://publishing.royalsociety.org/media/proceedings_a/rspa20071880.pdf" rel="nofollow">This</a> is the correct link.</p>
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		<title>By: Warren</title>
		<link>http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2008/08/global-warming-7.html/comment-page-1#comment-3032</link>
		<dc:creator>Warren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;papertiger - suggest you read &lt;a href=&quot;publishing.royalsociety.org/media/proceedings_a/rspa20071880.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this paper&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>papertiger &#8211; suggest you read <a href="publishing.royalsociety.org/media/proceedings_a/rspa20071880.pdf" rel="nofollow">this paper</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Papertiger</title>
		<link>http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2008/08/global-warming-7.html/comment-page-1#comment-3031</link>
		<dc:creator>Papertiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 05:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A solar cycle record, superimposed on the two temperature graphs, would be interesting.&lt;br /&gt;
We know that there was an unusually strong set of sun cycles from 21 to 23.&lt;br /&gt;
What were cycles 17-19 like?&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A solar cycle record, superimposed on the two temperature graphs, would be interesting.<br />
We know that there was an unusually strong set of sun cycles from 21 to 23.<br />
What were cycles 17-19 like?</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
		<link>http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2008/08/global-warming-7.html/comment-page-1#comment-3030</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Peter Gallagher: (this is the real Stephen btw): Sorry, missed your irony completely. It&#039;s sometimes hard to spot online, although you are right, the &quot;up/down&quot; reference should have been a bit obvious!&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Peter Gallagher: (this is the real Stephen btw): Sorry, missed your irony completely. It&#8217;s sometimes hard to spot online, although you are right, the &#8220;up/down&#8221; reference should have been a bit obvious!</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Gallagher</title>
		<link>http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2008/08/global-warming-7.html/comment-page-1#comment-3029</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Gallagher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 02:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@ Luis, @ Stephen,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I apologize:  this was an effort at humor. Never safe on climate weblogs. Of course this clever post is NOT &#039;cherrypicking&#039; in any meaningful sense since no statistical conclusions are drawn. My accusation that the graphs omit the great &#039;bucket/inlet&#039; period is only sarcasm (about that particularly pointless controversy).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I thought the &#039;up-down&#039; fallacy would have given it away. There is no such fallacy although (although there IS an &#039;excluded middle&#039; here, as Luis points out...). Up is &#039;up&#039; and Down is &#039;down&#039;: I can&#039;t believe that even semioticists, warmists or the the anti-fat diet police would hold otherwise.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Best wishes to you.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Luis, @ Stephen,</p>
<p>I apologize:  this was an effort at humor. Never safe on climate weblogs. Of course this clever post is NOT &#8216;cherrypicking&#8217; in any meaningful sense since no statistical conclusions are drawn. My accusation that the graphs omit the great &#8216;bucket/inlet&#8217; period is only sarcasm (about that particularly pointless controversy).</p>
<p>I thought the &#8216;up-down&#8217; fallacy would have given it away. There is no such fallacy although (although there IS an &#8216;excluded middle&#8217; here, as Luis points out&#8230;). Up is &#8216;up&#8217; and Down is &#8216;down&#8217;: I can&#8217;t believe that even semioticists, warmists or the the anti-fat diet police would hold otherwise.</p>
<p>Best wishes to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Papertiger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Papertiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 22:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m Scientist, and so&#039;s my wife.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m Scientist, and so&#8217;s my wife.</p>
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		<title>By: Luis Dias</title>
		<link>http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2008/08/global-warming-7.html/comment-page-1#comment-3027</link>
		<dc:creator>Luis Dias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This thread has no credence.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I am also a moron.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Is this a healthy discussion?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This thread has no credence.</p>
<p>I am also a moron.</p>
<p>Is this a healthy discussion?</p>
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		<title>By: Luis Dias</title>
		<link>http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2008/08/global-warming-7.html/comment-page-1#comment-3026</link>
		<dc:creator>Luis Dias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well, Papertiger, tell that they were inferior to the sunk ships!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I stand by my reasoning that this post is a straw-man of gigantic proportions. Stephen&#039;s comment, whoever he might &lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt;be  (I couldn&#039;t care less about that), has a point there. To say that both climbs are equal in slope and scope tells us nothing more than just that. It&#039;s perfectly possible that the IPCC&#039;s stance of GHG&#039;s affecting one more than the other be true. So this post in particular is nonsensical (pointless). I&#039;m looking forward for those videos Warren promised us, and I hope he doesn&#039;t have this kind of rethorics backing him up. It wouldn&#039;t be good.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Papertiger, tell that they were inferior to the sunk ships!</p>
<p>I stand by my reasoning that this post is a straw-man of gigantic proportions. Stephen&#8217;s comment, whoever he might <i>really</i>be  (I couldn&#8217;t care less about that), has a point there. To say that both climbs are equal in slope and scope tells us nothing more than just that. It&#8217;s perfectly possible that the IPCC&#8217;s stance of GHG&#8217;s affecting one more than the other be true. So this post in particular is nonsensical (pointless). I&#8217;m looking forward for those videos Warren promised us, and I hope he doesn&#8217;t have this kind of rethorics backing him up. It wouldn&#8217;t be good.</p>
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