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		<title>By: Tim Perkins</title>
		<link>http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2008/04/global-warming-3.html/comment-page-1#comment-1211</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Perkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 02:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Your statement, &quot;OK, I see, so warm winters hurt the maple sugar industry&quot;, is incorrect in that it grossly oversimplifies the story. It is not the temperature alone that is important. Instead it is the number of freeze-thaw cycles that dictates the sap pressure, and thus flow of sap from maple trees. The number of cycles is affected by season duration.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Also, it turns out that this season (2008) was quite cold, and was rather good for producers throughout most of the U.S.  In Canada the situation was different. It was very cold (too cold for sap to run), and then got too warm, without adequate refreezing at night to recharge the system.  So production was lower in Quebec.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Finally, one commenter mentioned a lack of data regarding production. That is incorrect....there is plenty of data on maple production. Unfortunately, production alone doesn&#039;t tell much of a story because it is affected by numerous variables (economics, population demographics, equipment costs, syrup in storage, etc.) rather than climate alone. There is good data showing that the maple production season is starting and ending earlier in the year than historically, and that the duration is decreasing throughout the U.S. syrup producing areas.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your statement, &#8220;OK, I see, so warm winters hurt the maple sugar industry&#8221;, is incorrect in that it grossly oversimplifies the story. It is not the temperature alone that is important. Instead it is the number of freeze-thaw cycles that dictates the sap pressure, and thus flow of sap from maple trees. The number of cycles is affected by season duration.</p>
<p>Also, it turns out that this season (2008) was quite cold, and was rather good for producers throughout most of the U.S.  In Canada the situation was different. It was very cold (too cold for sap to run), and then got too warm, without adequate refreezing at night to recharge the system.  So production was lower in Quebec.</p>
<p>Finally, one commenter mentioned a lack of data regarding production. That is incorrect&#8230;.there is plenty of data on maple production. Unfortunately, production alone doesn&#8217;t tell much of a story because it is affected by numerous variables (economics, population demographics, equipment costs, syrup in storage, etc.) rather than climate alone. There is good data showing that the maple production season is starting and ending earlier in the year than historically, and that the duration is decreasing throughout the U.S. syrup producing areas.</p>
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		<title>By: John Nicklin</title>
		<link>http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2008/04/global-warming-3.html/comment-page-1#comment-1210</link>
		<dc:creator>John Nicklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I grew up in maple syrup country in Ontario, Canada in the mid to late 1960&#039;s. I can&#039;t remember a year that was good for syrup production. Crop producers of all descriptions fear the worst every year: too hot, too cold; to wet, too dry; not enough snow cover, too much snow cover. Its a natural response to the chaotic nature of weather/climate when your job is to consistently produce bumper crops.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In response to what is normal, normal doesn&#039;t exist except within a broad range of values over time and based on where you set your benchmark. So, do you define normal based on the past 30 years or over a more reasonable time scale that reflects a longer data set, like 500,000,000 years? Scientist will want you to consider only the last 30 or so years (less than an eye blink in geological time) or if pushed, the last 1,000 years so we can trot out the hockey stick. All other definitions of normal would disallow the catastrophe.  &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I grew up in maple syrup country in Ontario, Canada in the mid to late 1960&#8217;s. I can&#8217;t remember a year that was good for syrup production. Crop producers of all descriptions fear the worst every year: too hot, too cold; to wet, too dry; not enough snow cover, too much snow cover. Its a natural response to the chaotic nature of weather/climate when your job is to consistently produce bumper crops.</p>
<p>In response to what is normal, normal doesn&#8217;t exist except within a broad range of values over time and based on where you set your benchmark. So, do you define normal based on the past 30 years or over a more reasonable time scale that reflects a longer data set, like 500,000,000 years? Scientist will want you to consider only the last 30 or so years (less than an eye blink in geological time) or if pushed, the last 1,000 years so we can trot out the hockey stick. All other definitions of normal would disallow the catastrophe.  </p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
		<link>http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2008/04/global-warming-3.html/comment-page-1#comment-1209</link>
		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This is one of the many ancedotal stories that seem to crop up every week or so -of course, they don&#039;t have any real data showing a drop off in Maple Syrup production, but it does make for good reading. BTW, I buy real maple syrup 3 or 4 times a year, and I haven&#039;t seen any appreciable price increase in recent years. If there was a real danger in the future production of maple syrup, this price would most certainly sky rocket.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one of the many ancedotal stories that seem to crop up every week or so -of course, they don&#8217;t have any real data showing a drop off in Maple Syrup production, but it does make for good reading. BTW, I buy real maple syrup 3 or 4 times a year, and I haven&#8217;t seen any appreciable price increase in recent years. If there was a real danger in the future production of maple syrup, this price would most certainly sky rocket.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike G (Michigan)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike G (Michigan)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What is normal and who decides? &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is normal and who decides? </p>
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		<title>By: Scientist</title>
		<link>http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2008/04/global-warming-3.html/comment-page-1#comment-1207</link>
		<dc:creator>Scientist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 08:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What a laughable idea, that if warmer winters are bad then colder winters must be good.  Is it so hard to understand that conditions significantly different from normal, in either direction, can be bad for agriculture?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a laughable idea, that if warmer winters are bad then colder winters must be good.  Is it so hard to understand that conditions significantly different from normal, in either direction, can be bad for agriculture?</p>
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		<title>By: coveman</title>
		<link>http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2008/04/global-warming-3.html/comment-page-1#comment-1206</link>
		<dc:creator>coveman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s interesting how the potential destruction of world agriculture (and therefore our food supply) has been one of the main scare tactics employed in both the &quot;global cooling&quot; hoax of the 1970s and the &quot;global warming&quot; hoax of today.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And yet, the food riots we are seeing around the world today (Haiti, Yemen, Egypt, Mexico) are the result of the pursuit of--BIOFUELS!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Who will save us from the saviours?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting how the potential destruction of world agriculture (and therefore our food supply) has been one of the main scare tactics employed in both the &#8220;global cooling&#8221; hoax of the 1970s and the &#8220;global warming&#8221; hoax of today.</p>
<p>And yet, the food riots we are seeing around the world today (Haiti, Yemen, Egypt, Mexico) are the result of the pursuit of&#8211;BIOFUELS!</p>
<p>Who will save us from the saviours?</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Sheldon</title>
		<link>http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2008/04/global-warming-3.html/comment-page-1#comment-1205</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Sheldon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Some people whine and complain if you hit them with a brand-new hammer.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I personally don&#039;t remember weather like this since the last time.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some people whine and complain if you hit them with a brand-new hammer.</p>
<p>I personally don&#8217;t remember weather like this since the last time.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 18:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;LOL. The 2007 article had the guy fretting about shirtsleeve weather in December. It must have been a very cold previous 4 months for him this year as he ran around in his shortsleeves.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL. The 2007 article had the guy fretting about shirtsleeve weather in December. It must have been a very cold previous 4 months for him this year as he ran around in his shortsleeves.</p>
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		<title>By: mick</title>
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		<dc:creator>mick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;lol, good work&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol, good work</p>
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