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		<title>By: Paul Novell</title>
		<link>http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2007/12/false-sense-of.html/comment-page-1#comment-270</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Novell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 06:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Have you seen this release from the NOAA...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2007/20071213_climateupdate.html&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;An excerpt...&lt;br /&gt;
&quot;Including 2007, seven of the eight warmest years on record have occurred since 2001 and the 10 warmest years have all occurred since 1997. The global average surface temperature has risen between 0.6°C and 0.7°C since the start of the twentieth century, and the rate of increase since 1976 has been approximately three times faster than the century-scale trend.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Seems like they&#039;re trying real hard to hide the fact the temps have been flat or down since 1998....&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Paul&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you seen this release from the NOAA&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2007/20071213_climateupdate.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2007/20071213_climateupdate.html</a></p>
<p>An excerpt&#8230;<br />
&#8220;Including 2007, seven of the eight warmest years on record have occurred since 2001 and the 10 warmest years have all occurred since 1997. The global average surface temperature has risen between 0.6°C and 0.7°C since the start of the twentieth century, and the rate of increase since 1976 has been approximately three times faster than the century-scale trend.&#8221;</p>
<p>Seems like they&#8217;re trying real hard to hide the fact the temps have been flat or down since 1998&#8230;.</p>
<p>Paul</p>
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		<title>By: Jody</title>
		<link>http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2007/12/false-sense-of.html/comment-page-1#comment-269</link>
		<dc:creator>Jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks Joe, I had poked around junkscience before but had somehow never come across that particular page - it&#039;s a nice collection.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Joe, I had poked around junkscience before but had somehow never come across that particular page &#8211; it&#8217;s a nice collection.</p>
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		<title>By: JoeH</title>
		<link>http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2007/12/false-sense-of.html/comment-page-1#comment-268</link>
		<dc:creator>JoeH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 02:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jody,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Try here: http://www.junkscience.com/MSU_Temps/Warming_Look.html&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This site also provides links to the source data, GISS, Hadley, etc.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Good luck&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jody,</p>
<p>Try here: <a href="http://www.junkscience.com/MSU_Temps/Warming_Look.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.junkscience.com/MSU_Temps/Warming_Look.html</a></p>
<p>This site also provides links to the source data, GISS, Hadley, etc.</p>
<p>Good luck</p>
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		<title>By: jody</title>
		<link>http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2007/12/false-sense-of.html/comment-page-1#comment-267</link>
		<dc:creator>jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;With respect to the claim that 2007 will be cooler, do you know where I can track down this year&#039;s &quot;global&quot; temperature to date?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks...&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With respect to the claim that 2007 will be cooler, do you know where I can track down this year&#8217;s &#8220;global&#8221; temperature to date?</p>
<p>Thanks&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JoeH</title>
		<link>http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2007/12/false-sense-of.html/comment-page-1#comment-266</link>
		<dc:creator>JoeH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Here is NOAA&#039;s summary paragraph dated August 9th:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;NOAA is predicting a very high likelihood (85% chance) of an above-normal 2007 Atlantic hurricane season, a 10% chance of a near-normal season, and only a 5% chance of a below-normal season, according to a consensus of scientists at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) Climate Prediction Center, National Hurricane Center, Hurricane Research Division, and Hydrometeorological Prediction Center.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
(http://www.cpc.noaa.gov/products/outlooks/hurricane.shtml)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So this wasn&#039;t just a pre-hurricane season forecast, but one that was made 70 days or over 1/3 of the way into the season.  It does not give me a great deal of confidence that our climate scientist can tell us what global temperatures are going to be next year much less in the next 10 or 20 years.  Those of you who are observant will notice that NOAA used the phrase &quot;consensus of scientists&quot;.  Haven&#039;t we heard that somewhere before?  Just askin.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is NOAA&#8217;s summary paragraph dated August 9th:</p>
<p>&#8220;NOAA is predicting a very high likelihood (85% chance) of an above-normal 2007 Atlantic hurricane season, a 10% chance of a near-normal season, and only a 5% chance of a below-normal season, according to a consensus of scientists at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) Climate Prediction Center, National Hurricane Center, Hurricane Research Division, and Hydrometeorological Prediction Center.&#8221;<br />
(<a href="http://www.cpc.noaa.gov/products/outlooks/hurricane.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.cpc.noaa.gov/products/outlooks/hurricane.shtml</a>)</p>
<p>So this wasn&#8217;t just a pre-hurricane season forecast, but one that was made 70 days or over 1/3 of the way into the season.  It does not give me a great deal of confidence that our climate scientist can tell us what global temperatures are going to be next year much less in the next 10 or 20 years.  Those of you who are observant will notice that NOAA used the phrase &#8220;consensus of scientists&#8221;.  Haven&#8217;t we heard that somewhere before?  Just askin.</p>
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		<title>By: brazil84</title>
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		<dc:creator>brazil84</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 08:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I suppose somebody needs to go back and look at these predictions in an organized way.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I do believe that these warmers are using probabilities they have pulled out of their asses as a way of hedging themselves.  &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose somebody needs to go back and look at these predictions in an organized way.  </p>
<p>I do believe that these warmers are using probabilities they have pulled out of their asses as a way of hedging themselves.  </p>
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