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		<title>By: Mesa Econoguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mesa Econoguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 01:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Having fudged a model or 2 myself, this is the confirmation of stupidity on the part of the IPCC I was looking for.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Well, that, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://nzclimatescience.net/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=155&amp;Itemid=1: rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;“My [Dr. Vincent Gray, IPCC member] main complaint with the IPCC is in the methods used to &quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;
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No computer climate model has ever been tested in this way, so none should be used for prediction. They sort of accept this by never permitting the use of the term &quot;prediction&quot;, only &quot;projection&quot;. But they then go ahead predicting anyway.”&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Since climate scientists have this annoying holier-than-thou attitude about their failed models and statistical analyses, I find it more than amusing that they employ the bullshit amateur tactics silencing debate, when both you and I, Coyote, said months ago, the debate is only getting started.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Your site(s) remains a vital source of information, while the AZ Republic prints crap like this:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/1205climate-storms1205.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Warming planet spawning fierce storms, studies say&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;Extreme storms can produce good or bad results, Redmond said. Studies, including the one released by Environment Arizona, warn that big storms could disrupt natural cycles, reducing the amount of water produced by snowmelt.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Yeah, and the natural cycle could result in me publicly ridiculing &quot;Kelly Redmond, regional climatologist and deputy director of the Western Regional Climate Center in Reno.&quot;  But I would never do such a thing.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Awful.  And scientifically despicable.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having fudged a model or 2 myself, this is the confirmation of stupidity on the part of the IPCC I was looking for.</p>
<p>Well, that, and <a href="http://nzclimatescience.net/index.php?option=com_content&#038;task=view&#038;id=155&#038;Itemid=1: rel="nofollow">this</a>:</p>
<p>“My [Dr. Vincent Gray, IPCC member] main complaint with the IPCC is in the methods used to &#8221; rel=&#8221;nofollow&#8221;><br />
<br />
No computer climate model has ever been tested in this way, so none should be used for prediction. They sort of accept this by never permitting the use of the term &#8220;prediction&#8221;, only &#8220;projection&#8221;. But they then go ahead predicting anyway.”</p>
<p>Since climate scientists have this annoying holier-than-thou attitude about their failed models and statistical analyses, I find it more than amusing that they employ the bullshit amateur tactics silencing debate, when both you and I, Coyote, said months ago, the debate is only getting started.</p>
<p>Your site(s) remains a vital source of information, while the AZ Republic prints crap like this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/1205climate-storms1205.html" rel="nofollow">Warming planet spawning fierce storms, studies say</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Extreme storms can produce good or bad results, Redmond said. Studies, including the one released by Environment Arizona, warn that big storms could disrupt natural cycles, reducing the amount of water produced by snowmelt.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, and the natural cycle could result in me publicly ridiculing &#8220;Kelly Redmond, regional climatologist and deputy director of the Western Regional Climate Center in Reno.&#8221;  But I would never do such a thing.</p>
<p>Awful.  And scientifically despicable.</p>
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