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	<title>Comments on: Antarctic Sea Ice at Record High</title>
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		<title>By: celebrim</title>
		<link>http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2007/09/antarctic-sea-i.html/comment-page-1#comment-30</link>
		<dc:creator>celebrim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;Scientists, who have no political axe to grind, have almost unanimously agreed that this is a reliable method to use. Scientists, who have devoted their life’s work to this research, are not at all likely to compromise their conclusions by caving to extremist views.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Clearly sir, you are not a scientist.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Come back when you&#039;ve worked in an University setting, then you can report to me whether scientists have political axes to grind, or whether having invested your entire life in a particular line of research tends to make one extremist or not.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Scientists, who have no political axe to grind, have almost unanimously agreed that this is a reliable method to use. Scientists, who have devoted their life’s work to this research, are not at all likely to compromise their conclusions by caving to extremist views.&#8221;</p>
<p>Clearly sir, you are not a scientist.</p>
<p>Come back when you&#8217;ve worked in an University setting, then you can report to me whether scientists have political axes to grind, or whether having invested your entire life in a particular line of research tends to make one extremist or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2007/09/antarctic-sea-i.html/comment-page-1#comment-29</link>
		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 00:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Randy from Maine made some interesting claims and sourced my alma matter the University of New Hampshire.  They are proud of the research they do with regard to ice core samples and justifiably so.  I doubt however they would want a distortion of their research propogated by anyone.  So I feel warranted to point out the one little problem with your claims.  You stated that the ice cores from Antarctica and Greenland went all the way back to the time of the dinosaurs.  The problem with that is that Antarctica and Greenland were no where near where they are now due to the shifting of continents so they haven&#039;t always been covered with ice.  The ice cores simply aren&#039;t that old.  The evidence you suggest simply doesn&#039;t exist.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;When they reach the bottom of the ice sheet, 3000+ meters thick, in 1992 they will have recovered the longest, most detailed, continuous record of climate available from the northern hemisphere stretching back 200,000 years or more through two glacial/interglacial (cold/warm) cycles.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Source of quote:&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.gisp2.sr.unh.edu/MoreInfo/Ice_Cores_Past.html &lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randy from Maine made some interesting claims and sourced my alma matter the University of New Hampshire.  They are proud of the research they do with regard to ice core samples and justifiably so.  I doubt however they would want a distortion of their research propogated by anyone.  So I feel warranted to point out the one little problem with your claims.  You stated that the ice cores from Antarctica and Greenland went all the way back to the time of the dinosaurs.  The problem with that is that Antarctica and Greenland were no where near where they are now due to the shifting of continents so they haven&#8217;t always been covered with ice.  The ice cores simply aren&#8217;t that old.  The evidence you suggest simply doesn&#8217;t exist.  </p>
<p>&#8220;When they reach the bottom of the ice sheet, 3000+ meters thick, in 1992 they will have recovered the longest, most detailed, continuous record of climate available from the northern hemisphere stretching back 200,000 years or more through two glacial/interglacial (cold/warm) cycles.&#8221;</p>
<p>Source of quote:<br />
<a href="http://www.gisp2.sr.unh.edu/MoreInfo/Ice_Cores_Past.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.gisp2.sr.unh.edu/MoreInfo/Ice_Cores_Past.html</a> </p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2007/09/antarctic-sea-i.html/comment-page-1#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 22:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;One thing that does seem obvious, only one side of the argument is being allowed in public right now.  And that is scary&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing that does seem obvious, only one side of the argument is being allowed in public right now.  And that is scary</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2007/09/antarctic-sea-i.html/comment-page-1#comment-27</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 22:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Curious if anyone has tried to determine the cause of the shifting of the magnetic north pole and if it could be impacting localized climate change.  Growing ice in the south, melting in the north.  &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curious if anyone has tried to determine the cause of the shifting of the magnetic north pole and if it could be impacting localized climate change.  Growing ice in the south, melting in the north.  </p>
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		<title>By: William Pinn</title>
		<link>http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2007/09/antarctic-sea-i.html/comment-page-1#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator>William Pinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 21:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;According to glaciologists, the world is at the tail end of an interglacial period (warming trend) that has a length of about 10,000 years.  Over the next 10,000 years, an ice age will result.  Where I live, we are having a record cool summer.  I expect many more records of cool weather to be shattered within my lifetime.  And, what is all this focus on CO2?  Methane is 20 times the greenhouse gas.  What causes methane?  Trees, dead leaves, etc.  If greenhouse gases are really a threat, then we need to cut down more trees.  Then again, maybe greenhouse gases aren&#039;t really a threat.  &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to glaciologists, the world is at the tail end of an interglacial period (warming trend) that has a length of about 10,000 years.  Over the next 10,000 years, an ice age will result.  Where I live, we are having a record cool summer.  I expect many more records of cool weather to be shattered within my lifetime.  And, what is all this focus on CO2?  Methane is 20 times the greenhouse gas.  What causes methane?  Trees, dead leaves, etc.  If greenhouse gases are really a threat, then we need to cut down more trees.  Then again, maybe greenhouse gases aren&#8217;t really a threat.  </p>
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		<title>By: Ed in MT</title>
		<link>http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2007/09/antarctic-sea-i.html/comment-page-1#comment-25</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed in MT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Going-to-the-Sun Highway in Galcier Park is not open, latest ever except for 1943 during WWII.  I would think we have better equipment than we did in the 40&#039;s, so if you think about it, is this the latest opening ever?  And where is Hollywood and all the screaming about the floods in the Mid West?  I have not heard where George Bush caused that.  And we have not had a hurricane hit the US in two years, does that contribute to the drought in the southeast?  The probelem is global food supply.  Corn and soybean acres lost in the mid west floods, Irriwadi rice prodcution by the typhoon, China planting due to the earthquake, a major outbreak of Ug99 Wheat Stem Rust in Africa and the in Middle East, Australia is having droughts.  Now we have a volcanoe erupting for two months in Chile and the sunspots are not developing for the next cycle.  I think we need to quit worrying about what chunk of ice melted or what water froze and get on with prodcuing some food.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Going-to-the-Sun Highway in Galcier Park is not open, latest ever except for 1943 during WWII.  I would think we have better equipment than we did in the 40&#8242;s, so if you think about it, is this the latest opening ever?  And where is Hollywood and all the screaming about the floods in the Mid West?  I have not heard where George Bush caused that.  And we have not had a hurricane hit the US in two years, does that contribute to the drought in the southeast?  The probelem is global food supply.  Corn and soybean acres lost in the mid west floods, Irriwadi rice prodcution by the typhoon, China planting due to the earthquake, a major outbreak of Ug99 Wheat Stem Rust in Africa and the in Middle East, Australia is having droughts.  Now we have a volcanoe erupting for two months in Chile and the sunspots are not developing for the next cycle.  I think we need to quit worrying about what chunk of ice melted or what water froze and get on with prodcuing some food.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2007/09/antarctic-sea-i.html/comment-page-1#comment-24</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;To Nick Bagetellos 12/24/07:  Our species has not been here 4 billion years.  Modern homo sapiens is about 100,000 years old.  We have only begun significant alterations to our environment since the advent of agriculture, around 10,000 years ago.  Industrial pollutants took off on a large scale only for the past two centuries.  Our skyrocketing numbers are part of the problem.  Yes, we are adaptable.  Most environmental changes occur over significant spans of geologic time, providing time for organisms to adapt through random mutation and natural selection.  Sometimes change occurs during a brief period of time.  The end of the permian and cretaceous epochs are marked by mass extinctions, both which may have been the result of large asteroid impacts.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It is just as ridiculous to think humans MIGHT be responsible for climate change as it is to think we could pollute an entire river or a lake through careless toxic emissions.  Utterly ridiculous, right?  And so much cheaper to just dump waste into rivers and streams, where it belongs.  Phosphorus promotes plant growth.  Used motor oil--I&#039;m sure we can dream up a few benefits for that, if we try hard enough.  Warmer global temperatures may make siberia and northern canada more habitable, in addition to killing off billions of people in undesirable places like Africa and the Middle East.  So every cloud has a silver lining.  I for one am glad I live in the country responsible for the most carbon emissions and with the highest per capita energy consumption.  It is nice to be a world leader in these areas, and to abdicate any responsibility for the ensuing disasters.  In a few million years the earth may recover, and our descendants will marvel at the resources we squandered.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Nick Bagetellos 12/24/07:  Our species has not been here 4 billion years.  Modern homo sapiens is about 100,000 years old.  We have only begun significant alterations to our environment since the advent of agriculture, around 10,000 years ago.  Industrial pollutants took off on a large scale only for the past two centuries.  Our skyrocketing numbers are part of the problem.  Yes, we are adaptable.  Most environmental changes occur over significant spans of geologic time, providing time for organisms to adapt through random mutation and natural selection.  Sometimes change occurs during a brief period of time.  The end of the permian and cretaceous epochs are marked by mass extinctions, both which may have been the result of large asteroid impacts.</p>
<p>It is just as ridiculous to think humans MIGHT be responsible for climate change as it is to think we could pollute an entire river or a lake through careless toxic emissions.  Utterly ridiculous, right?  And so much cheaper to just dump waste into rivers and streams, where it belongs.  Phosphorus promotes plant growth.  Used motor oil&#8211;I&#8217;m sure we can dream up a few benefits for that, if we try hard enough.  Warmer global temperatures may make siberia and northern canada more habitable, in addition to killing off billions of people in undesirable places like Africa and the Middle East.  So every cloud has a silver lining.  I for one am glad I live in the country responsible for the most carbon emissions and with the highest per capita energy consumption.  It is nice to be a world leader in these areas, and to abdicate any responsibility for the ensuing disasters.  In a few million years the earth may recover, and our descendants will marvel at the resources we squandered.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Reid</title>
		<link>http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2007/09/antarctic-sea-i.html/comment-page-1#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Reid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 05:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Some comments on the expanding Southern Hemisphere sea ice can be found here:&lt;br /&gt;
http://staff.acecrc.org.au/~preid/discussion/discuss_Sep2007.html&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some comments on the expanding Southern Hemisphere sea ice can be found here:<br />
<a href="http://staff.acecrc.org.au/~preid/discussion/discuss_Sep2007.html" rel="nofollow">http://staff.acecrc.org.au/~preid/discussion/discuss_Sep2007.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: nutty</title>
		<link>http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2007/09/antarctic-sea-i.html/comment-page-1#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator>nutty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/7299561.stm&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;i suppose the bbc is wrong about the world&#039;s glaciers as well...&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>i suppose the bbc is wrong about the world&#8217;s glaciers as well&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: litesong</title>
		<link>http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2007/09/antarctic-sea-i.html/comment-page-1#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator>litesong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 17:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Its hard to correlate Glacier Bay glacier retreats to global warming. However, it is easy to see the glaciers retreated due to man-made pollutions. As reported in Green Car Congress for August 9, 2007, Joe McConnell &amp; Ross Edwards stated that between 1850 &amp; 1950, American industry poured dark particulate matter &amp; pollutions into the atmosphere. Not only were people sickened in near cities, but prevailing winds carried these v. dark particles directly to the ices of Greenland. Greenland ice core studies concentrating on vanillic &amp; sulfur indicate that man-made pollutions were 8 times more effective than &#039;natural&#039; forest fire carbon at warming &amp; melting Greenland ices.    &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its hard to correlate Glacier Bay glacier retreats to global warming. However, it is easy to see the glaciers retreated due to man-made pollutions. As reported in Green Car Congress for August 9, 2007, Joe McConnell &#038; Ross Edwards stated that between 1850 &#038; 1950, American industry poured dark particulate matter &#038; pollutions into the atmosphere. Not only were people sickened in near cities, but prevailing winds carried these v. dark particles directly to the ices of Greenland. Greenland ice core studies concentrating on vanillic &#038; sulfur indicate that man-made pollutions were 8 times more effective than &#8216;natural&#8217; forest fire carbon at warming &#038; melting Greenland ices.    </p>
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